Macbooks are great if you work for Apple! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29142157

Otherwise you’re far better off not being a share cropper on an open system like Archlinux

1. A package manager that works flawlessly and fast
2. Docker works
3. Ext4 works and I failed to mentioned you can mount other filesystem with ease on Linux

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  2. Well, there is Nix (+direnv), which works on macOS quite well and alleviates the need for Docker and provides better reproducibility with a lot less overhead, while project dependencies are still separate.

  3. I had an Iphone for 6 months, after nearly throwing the thing against the wall multiple times during those months due to everything I wanted to do being not possible unless a jailbreak was done, I decided to sell it and never buy anything macintosh again…

  5. You forgot that to compile ios mac mobile app you need a mac, and a recent one… there is no other options.
    For me, it made the choice clear. I need a machine i can do everything on

  16. I use m1 macbook air and dell gaming laptop with arch daily for webdev, some C, python and I can't say i've never ever had a terrible docker or homebrew experience. And generally macos desktop is more stable and fluent. I don't say linux is bad, in many ways it's superior but I totally disagree with takes from this video.

  17. As a javascript developer, macbook is just the sweetest spot for me. I used Linux for around 8 – 10 years, I couldn't find myself going back to Windows because of the commands I was writing out of my muscle memory in bash or zsh, and if I had to use photoshop (which is a realistic requirement for pretty much everyone) I knew I was not getting it on Linux, and shifting to Windows just for that was not worth it.

    So for me, macbook air is the best value for money.

  20. Omg this is the farthest thing from the truth (& I am a developer). Homebrew is great. I’ve used all kinds of distros & package managers: arch/pacman,ubuntu/apt,redhat/dnf, even windows with chocolatey & winget) & by far Homebrew(on linux is not as good) is the best (it’s not perfect but none are). Docker on Macs is not broken. I use it every day

  21. These opinions are of course completely valid and appreciated, but I’ll continue to be responsibly critical. Rooting against a highly successful, well thought, and intentionally composed UX typically screams any combination of contrarianism, a lack of true understanding of some pertinent element or, in this case, genuine and thoughtful bias. Remember – bias doesn’t always mean evil.

    As somebody who has built web content for well over a decade and was a typical “Apple hater” for the first half of it, I’ll never go back. The experience as a whole is unparalleled. And I’m obsessive to a self-destructive degree. With that said – I’m not a particularly fancy back-end dude, so take that into account ¯_(シ)_/¯

  25. Linux is good for the backend but try in xt4 to work with @media queries and draw a design for your site or your button (web drawing is not serious) try working with fonts. On Mac, it all just works, and I don't want to waste time finding a driver for my Wi-Fi card in my laptop for Debian. I remember that time when GitHub desktop did not exist for Linux only Mac and Windows, and some preprocessor automatic GUI apps.

  26. I got a Windows 11 laptop, macos Air, and now I turned my second Windows pc into a Linux Cinammin Mint. Only 2 days in using but I am amazed by how quickly it boots up and the software which are open sourced are pretty good! I've done some minor programming with it so far with Python and JavaScript and so far it works pretty well.
    The only down side please correct me if I am wrong. If you are trying to run .NET and C# it appears there isn't any real support on Linux and on mac by 2024 Visual Studio will become deprecated. So At the present moment I am on Windows because it is the best platform for .NET and C# development.

  28. What about windows? I am totally lost in my investigation about the next laptop and I am a professional web developer. Currently I am torn apart between T14 Gen 4 and Air 10C 15 inch.

  29. I'm not even sure what the point of this video is. I don't need something like AUR in MacOS. All of my needs are met with Homebrew. I'm a long time server Arch user, but I don't understand the vibe of this one.

  31. I mean you're not wrong but the industry has been overrun with Apple when it comes to unix/posix systems for developers. Sometimes the "standard" is never what's actually better.

  32. Thumbs down. I use docker since years on macs. It is working without issues for the current and the last 3 versions of macos with all kind of different containers, stacks and images. If docker were broken on macos this would have severe consequences for a lot of developers, which of course it does not. But I guess you know you are trolling. 👎🏻

  34. I am a budding developer. i have used windows, linux and mac all 3 at some point in life.

    When he says – you need an 'open machine' for development, he is goddamn right. Daily simple developers do not or might not really need to tweak everything to that minute perfection, but as we go higher and higher, even the python interpreter files need to tweaked, the installation needs to reconfigured some times.

    And THAT IS DAMN SIMPLE ON LINUX,

    But we all have our preferences so yeh, cool with whatever you all use. Distros are for us, we are not for distros ,

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